Which blog did I swtich to? The Guardian. Not joking here. There is nothing in the world of the celebirty gossip right now that is decent enough for me. The Guardian allows comments and has fair censorship. If I want to discuss Trump and politics that is the right place to do it, not CB. They also have a decent arts section.
You’ll see , those Swift fans will disappear pretty quickly. I’ve seen it over and over. Yes, there will be people for a while, who openly disagree, but eventually they disappear because in general disagreement just doesn’t jive with CB. CB is an echo chamber.
And, yes, it goes beyond saying that criticism of the site or Kaiser will result in an immediate ban even for long term posters. I remember last year one of Kaiser’s favorites, lilacflower/ lighpurple, got banned when she disagreed with Kaiser over Kanye.
Absolutely.You are not allowed to support Swift on CB , period.
Exactly. It doesn’t matter what Taylor is like. What Kanye did was wrong. It is not about Kanye and Kim vs. Taylor, it is about right and wrong. Kaiser and many CB posters have very flexible ethics when it comes to their favorites, while those they don’t like are never given the benefit of a doubt.
A few thoughts on the some of the last days of posts
* People going to town on Susan Sarandon. Really? Susan Sarandon has been a lefty for longer than many of us were alive and now you are judging her? If your party doesn’t have a place for a brave and principled person that is Susan Sarandon then I am not interested in being in your party.
* It is funny to read the praise for Taylor Swifts given so grudgingly. Admit it, Taylor Swift has guts and has strength that is to be admired and she did all feminists a huge service by standing up for herself and not folding. Yes, she is privileged but she is still a human being with feelings. She definitely did more for feminism than Kanye will ever do. And I still remember some of the posters defending Kanye over his video with naked wax replicas of Swift and others.
* No fan of Ivanka or nepotism, but I wouldn’t be so readily jumping on board with criticism of her by Indian officials, many of whom think that a woman is a lesser human being. I felt a whiff of that in their condescension towards Ivanka.
I think Kaiser mentioned that she is half-Indian, I have my doubts. She knows little about India and Indians and the knowledge is superficial She comes across as an American white. It is possible that she is half-Indian but was raised by the white side of the family and has no connection to the Indian side. Still, she doesn’t seem to have any desire to learn more about India. And that makes me think she is a white person posing as someone else. It is internet, there is no way to tell.
Bullying and piling on are pretty typical of the CB, if you hold an opinion not shared by the majority of posters.
But yes, I think you are thinking about the right person.
Yep. Kaiser’s race baiting is pretty transparent. And the thing is, half of the time she doesn’t even understand the issue she is talking about, and she gets flak from her posters. Still, it is too good of an opportunity for her to get more clicks to pass it up.
Ha, good point. If Kate never works, how is it she is out and about at all these functions.
Yes. If they really have an issue with people living at taxpayer expense then they should stop making an exception for Harry. He is no less privileged than Will.
But it seems roayls living at the taxpayer expense are OK, as long as they like them. It only becomes a problem with those they don’t like.
For example, they will never say a bad word about Leticia and Matilda, but I personally fail to see the difference. All of them benefit from their royal status, and that is something that shouldn’t even exist anymore.
CB Angelina’s fans are quite over the top. It is no wonder most celebrities can’t handle fame. If you have people who practically worship you, and will fight anyone who doesn’t, it can’t be without consequences for the object of the worship. I’d probably run and hide far away with fans like this. I hear Beyonce’s and Taylor’s fans are like this as well. Some people grow out of it, but many don’t.
Also, the older I get the more I realize that most adults didn’t actually grow up. They are just pretending and playing their roles. Inside they are the same teenagers, just with less mood swings. -))
I have to say, it is a curious choice of the nom de plume by Kaiser. I am assuming she didn’t call herself Kaiser as in the Emperor, or did she? She behaves like one, for sure.
The regulars there are definitely not objective. They forget all about feminism and principles when an opportunity presents itself to pile on on a woman they don’t like. They are hypocrites, most of them.
Ah, this type of thing used to get me in trouble on CB all the time in the past. I just can’t help and not to stand up for an underdog when things start getting over the top. I tried defending Kate Middleton. And it is not that I am a fan. I actually think the monarchy should be abolished.
But really, the type of hate Kate gets on CB is not reasonable. Yes, she is living at the taxpayer expense, but she is not the only one and she is fairly harmless.
As for the Affleck’s new lady love, I also think she is cute. Not that I like her. I think she is making a mistake. But you know what, she is a human and humans have to learn some things the hard way. -)). She is the one who will be paying for that mistake in the end.
I saw it. I might’ve made an exception and commented on that one. I like Obama. But let’s be honest here. You can’t make an exception for you”team”.
If you are fighting corruption in politics, you can’t turn a blind eye when it is your “team” doing it for your “team”’s benefit. Corruption is corruption. And that is what these paid speeches are - a payment for future favors, i.e. legalized corruption. We can be honest , at least with ourselves, and say it, right?
I am not surprised.She is irrational about anything that has to do with Angelina.It is weird how a grown woman can be so obsessed with someone.
I think even her dislike of Vilkander has something to do with Vilkander doing the Tomb Raider, which used to be Angelina’s part.
It’s so hard as a POC to share any opinion that goes agaisnt the grain because once you do, everyone jumps on you.
It’s not right.
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That is how CB is on everything, really. If you go against consensus, people immediately jump on you and actually misinterpret what you said on purpose, to make it seem worse than it is.
And then, for the coup de grace, Kaiser bans you, so you can’t even say that those misinterpretations of your words are completely off the mark. You have to read 50 posts telling you how awful you are, even though you didn’t even say the things the people are arguing against.
They love to build a strawman and then to keep fighting it.
Kaiser used to love Benedict Cumberbatch and Michael Fassbender, until both of them got into serious relationships. They were her favorite internet boyfriends.
Now she claims they are not hot anymore and finds all kinds of faults with them.
She also figured out that if she posts these passive-aggressive posts abut their SOs then it brings all kinds of clicks from the subset of their fan girls who hate their SOs. And what is weird, the CB regulars, who didn’t care one way or another, piled on just for the fun of it.
With Cumberbatch it got so awful even Kaiser understood it was too much and one day she banned all those crazy fan girls. And that was the end of the Cumberbatch click bait.
The same story with Fassbender. Vilkander is a useful click bait.Fortunately there are enough CB posters who like her, so it doesn’t go down to the same level of crazy.
Oh, wow. The discussion on the Aladdin casting is really something. Who are these people claiming the actress is not “brown enough”? This is wrong in so many ways.
Additionally, as shocking as it might seem to many Americans, who have their own homegrown race classifications, Arabs are white. They identify themselves as white. Many of them are as light skinned as Europeans.
In this context a half-Indian half-white actress is absolutely fine.
I liked this comment by teacakes, among the sea of the cringeworthy ones. She gets why the reverse-paperbag test is wrong.
teacakes says:
…. it’s all very well to talk about how this is a fictional country and any brown person will do, but the 1992 movie literally opened with a song called Arabian Nights. I’d say that’s a pretty strong hint about where in the world this story is set and the origins of the characters.
That said, the ‘not brown enough’ Internet racial purity paperbag test Naomi Scott is being subjected to following her casting, is gross. I’m Indian and I have friends of full Indian descent like me who are lighter skinned than her – one of them was my best friend from school, and Naomi actually looks a freakish lot like her when she smiles.
Colorism is real but I have to say it, it doesn’t give anyone the right to declare her not Indian. And neither does ethnic ambiguity – plenty of non-white Indians look like they could be from other places, it doesn’t make them not Indian. I really feel like this anger is being misdirected at this girl because everyone is more caught up in how she isn’t Indian enough, than in targeting Disney for their screwups) And don’t even get me started on the ridiculousness of people going off on Mena Massoud’s being Coptic – he’s still Arab, isn’t he? As Aladdin should be.
Middletons can do no right on CB. Just the other day Pippa got criticized for wearing a fairly cheap “basic” knee long white dress/ suit to Wimbledon, for being “basic”.
OK. So today Kate gets criticized for wearing a breathtaking white McQueen suit because it is too expensive. So, which way do they want it - cheap or expensive?
Oh, and apparently the skirt on the suit was too full and that it is not OK because it is prone to “flashes”. But I also remember Kate being criticized for dressing too dowdy and too old for her age.
Pippa got raked over the coals for her long white floral dress she wore today. When I saw it, my first thought was - I wish I could afford to buy that dress. I love long lean summer dresses. Only after reading CB I learned how wrong I was about that dress -)).
I have noticed that Kaiser loves to use her opinion of events and people as facts. Last week in regards to Kate’s jewelry during the state visit by the Spanish Royals.
Kaiser said,“ The Queen also made Kate wear some big jewelry, and of course it didn’t work.”
How does Kaiser know what the Queen made Kate do or didn’t make Kate do? All of her speculation and bias is fact. Of course I attempt to comment that this isn’t fact at all and just speculation. Surprise it didn’t make it through the moderation.
Kaiser is a snake oil salesman in the business of selling speculation, bias, and BS.
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Yes, Kaiser also thinks she knows what Taylor Swift thinks about anything. But the worst is when she intentionally misinterprets some celebrity news item to make a celebrity look bad. I think she does it on purpose because then she gets dozens of posts from the said celebrity fans trying to explain that this is not what actually happened.
I don’t know myself. When I came across Celebitchy about 3 years ago, I think, it was already like this. It bothered me right away and I posted something positive a few times, but I was immediately drowned by a dozen of negative posts, so after a few tries I gave up and avoided Kate posts.
As to why this is happening, that I have an answer for. Kaiser is simply trolling for clicks. She has a few topics which she knows will bring a lot of comments from longtime loyal posters, who stick around CB for that one subject only.
Sometimes she also intentionally misinterprets actions or words of the celebrities who are her bait to generate ore controversy and more clicks.
Middletons are one of these baits, Amal Clooney is another, Hiddleston used to be, and before that Fassebender and Cumberbatch, before Kaiser fell out of love with them and turned nasty. Then their fans left. I am not sure who her internet boyfriend du jour is these days.
It was funny to watch how for the last 2 days Kaiser tried to get Cumberbatch fans bite, like in the past, to get some clicks out of them, but they didn’t.
Yes, that is how ban works. You write a post and submit it but it never appears.
Their obsession with Trump is disturbing. It is not like the US was a paradise on Earth before Trump. But somehow this gets completely lost in the hysterical reactions to Trump.
So much energy is being wasted on anger. It is time to let go and work towards the next elections.
People should be asking questions such as - what do they want the country to be like? Do we want more socialism, in what form? What about religion? What about foreign wars? What are our views of the American empire? If we let go of our dominance, what kind of the world we will be living in? Who is a valid alternative to Trump by whom progressives can stand?
There are so many questions without answers. And we need answers because at this point we don’t know where we are heading. How can you get anywhere if you don’t even know where you are going?
Yes, absolutely. On the other hand, I read a really good post by Josie on this topic on Lianna and it helped me a lot to understand why so many POCs react negatively when white people participate in the race discussions.
She says “ For white people, talking about race is uncomfortable. For people of color, it’s a necessity. “ This sentence made me understand.
At the end of the day, for many white people race relations is an intellectual discussion, where we want to analyze all sides of the issue so that we can relate it to our own experiences. But for POCs it is an every day struggle and to them the urgency of the issue is much greater and their patience has worn thin. They have no patience for analyzing, relating and translating it into experiences whites can relate to.
But I don’t see any other way than continuing to talk to each other. In the end, only through talking we’ll reach better understanding. Shutting down the ability of people to talk is counterproductive because it prevents us from forming that mutual understanding.
True. It reminds me of the days people were wanting Prince William to be named the heir instead of his father. He looked so much like Diana, people idealized him. Something similar is happening with Markle. People project their expectations on her. But I think she is going to be a disappointment. She is going into the highly scripted and restrictive life of a a royal with her eyes wide open. She is fully prepared to sacrifice her freedom for a status.
Yes, I noticed it too. And isn’t it ironic that they were slut shaming the woman they don’t like while with the women they like they always say that slut shaming is anti-feminist.
You know, you are probably right. It does sound like Lyan. He/she is so over the top.
The political articles there are the worst. No discussion of what might’ve gone wrong and how the country could be improved is allowed. The posters turn on anyone daring question the official Democrats party line and start blaming that person for everything that is wrong under the sun.
I am not sure. I think it is because of the racial aspect. She is a “white feminist” and it is not good enough for the posters there.
This comment explains it :
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She didn’t mean Spielberg she’s cast more roles for women. She meant for white women lol this is such white feminism. She dismissed the color purple bc it was a film of women of color.
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And to add to this. I don’t find Banks likeable myself.But I see the point she is making, albeit she made it very badly and picked a really bad target. If you want to talk about misogyny in Hollywood you shouldn’t be making Spielberg your target, you should be making Spielberg your ally.
But you know what. Banks might be a “white feminist” and she might not be good enough, but if she is speaking for your cause, maybe hold your horses a bit with criticism. Don’t let the perfect to be the enemy of the good.
And I think that is exactly the problem with CB. Unless someone is pitch perfect, they get torn to shreds. And you get to the point where nobody is good enough. And that is very negative and soul destroying.
130 comments discussing every minor detail of Kate Middleton’s blazer and capri outfit. It is so strange. I’d understand if the posters were professional stylists. Then these things could be very interesting and important. But otherwise? It is just bewildering. Most people judge fashion in a passing manner - does it look good overall or not.
To me she always looks good and presentable. Maybe she is not a fashion icon, but she is inoffensive in her wardrobe choices. You have to look very closely to find something to criticize.
OMG. What an awful blog on Tinashe. I won’t go there because I am not qualified. But all those people denying her experience, it is just so hurtful.The Original TC and QQ are the worst.
Ha, Kaiser was just told ever so politely that Joe Alwyn is not getting work because of Swift but due to his own qualifications. We know nothing about this guy but Kaiser already hates him by association. She has really strong feelings about Swift.
“ Alba says:
I see, but this article sort of says Alwyn wasn’t getting work. I think thats a slight misrepresentation . He is a guy who graduated recently from a very distinguished drama school in London ( The Royal Central School-Judi Dench, Vanessa Redgrave and tons of great actors from that school, most recently Andrew Garfield who is earning rave reviews for Angels in America at The National Theatre ). He has already scored jobs with Oscar winning/nominated directors such as Lee and Lanthimos and worked with some stellar actors in that year since he graduated, so hes way ahead of the heap of recent graduates already. The fact that such good directors cast him as an unknown makes me think he must have something. Lee is an actors director.”
For what it is worth, I think Alwyn is very handsome, and if he has any sort of talent on top of it, he’ll go far.
He and Swift also seem to look strangely similar. This must be a real thing, if that is possible with Taylor Swift. I noticed that many people get really attached to people who look like them.
I just saw this comment under the Sessions article. What an excellent comment. Well said.
Manzur says:
There are SO many other things to comment on besides appearance. Can we just stop? It brings the discussion down to junior high level. And YES i KNOW Trump has picked on physical appearance but does that mean we ALL have to now too? Is that mature reasoning? I despise that. Who cares what Sessions looks like? Who cares what about his accent? Just because the mean kids on the playground throw insults about appearance around does not mean the entire school should start. It dumbs down the conversation. Ivanka sleeps with her father. Eric Trump is ugly. Melanie sounds funny. Trump is Cheeto. There. Now we’re all five years old. It’s like a bad Saturday Night Live skit. Funny for the first 10 seconds and then lame and groan worthy as it drones on. Let’s all rise above. We are too good for this.
I don’t get it either.You would think a self-proclaim feminist site would support a woman coming out and saying what she really thinks. Yes. monogamy is not for everyone. If it works for someone, great, if not, fine.
Also, relationships are hard work and there are enough people who feel that the benefits they get from stable relationships are not worth the work required to maintain them.
I think Kaiser always disliked ScarJo, but now she can openly dislike her because of the whitewashing controversy with the Ghost in a Shell.
On top of that there is a certain racial bias purposely cultivated on the site. You will see comments along the lines that so and so is white and pretty and skinny and for this reason doesn’t have to struggle like the others, and it is a strike against that person. And ScarJo happens to be white, pretty and skinny. The only women who seem to be exempt from this criticism are Angelina and Katy Perry. And possibly Naomi Watts. Naomi is so likeable, people just can’t find it in themselves to criticize her.
Discussions of Vilkander and Fassbender bring back disturbing memories of Hunterbatch 2015. That was my first encounter with so-called “fans” viciously attacking a woman for her relationship with their internet boyfriend, and idle bystanders cheering them on from the sidelines, just for the fun of it.
Now, the second time around, I recognize all the signs.
*Claims that he (the internet boyfriend) looks unhappy and is just not the same, not attractive anymore. Yes, Kaiser, that is in reference to your comment “ He just seems so neutered with Vikander. “.
*That she (the woman) has abuse issues, snobby, unfriendly, unaccomplished.
*That the relationship is fake.
*That something just seems off.
*Bystanders claiming that this is no big deal, this is just regular gossip. I remember how lilacflower’s “Comet Sophie” references used to drive me mad during Hunterbatch. She didn’t care about it one way or another, she is a Hiddleston fan, or should I say “stan”. But she still went on and continued pouring gas on the fire, just for the fun of it. With Vilkander the same thing is going on.
In fairness, there are a couple of posters with factual information who refute the made up stories. But they drown in the sea of awfulness.
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I just noticed this comment by Skylark got deleted. I wondered how did it make it through -)).
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Let’s not forget that the CB writer who used to wet her knickers over everything (single) Fassbinder did has actively encouraged this deeply unpleasant madness purely because Fassy has taken up with a woman who is not her.
Make no mistake, that’s at the absolute root of it. Click on ‘Michael Fassbender’ for a history.
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I think it is just a way to drive traffic to the site because traffic means more advertisement revenue for the site and more money for the owners. Trump posts are the ones getting the most comments. A lot of people hate Trump with passion. Though, I don’t know how they don’t get tired of talking about him every day for hours. It is the same thing over and over.
#ban #celebitchy
Why does Celebitchy have an issue with men talking about objectification of men? I remember Kit Harrington talking about it and the CB commenters ridiculing him for it. Now Sam Clafin talks about it and it is a similar reaction, though a milder one.
Just because women have it worse, it doesn’t mean men should just shut up and take it when it happens to them. When both men and women talk about it then it only makes it the cause stronger.
Maybe it is because CB itself loves to indulge into objectification of men and this hits a bit close to home?
Well, I’ve noticed Kaiser is trying to build up Taylor Swift to be the new Kate Middleton. It doesn’t seem to take. While there are a number of posters who seem to have irrational hatred of Swift, there aren’t enough of them. Swift posts can’t even break 100 comments.
I found it a bit surreal how in today’s comments people were blaming Swift for being immature and so on because she is still ‘beefing’ with Perry. Except Swift hasn’t said anything in years, it is all from ‘sources’. I guess it is fun, building a strawman and then pummeling it to death.
So I got banned and after getting banned, I decided to go on Twitter and ask Kaiser why.
Because I didn’t do anything wrong, I didn’t break any rules, I read the rules and I was following them.
And I came across a tweet of her saying “Swifty fans” were “butthurt” (her favorite insult) and basically pissed off. Because in today’s thread (the Katy Vs Taylor Thread) people weren’t on Kaiser’s side about the “dated” (another word K uses to death) beef that Katy keeps bringing up.
And it made me laugh because you’re butthurt that people aren’t here for petty old dusty beef? We get that you hate Taylor Swift, but really? Am I as a black woman, supposed to stand up for Katy who was accused by a black rapper of saying the N word (multiple times)? Or someone who made fun of someone having a mental breakdown?
But no, let’s get pissed at T Swift for making love/hate songs about boyfriends and that Kanye bullshit.
It’s stupid and I love how Kaiser is so bent out of shape that she went to Twitter to complain about her readers not agreeing with the pettiness between two petty women.
But that’s okay, stick up for problematic Katy because she hates Taylor Swift.
You are so basic Kaiser.
Honestly. I love how you can ignore things that go against the “beliefs” you so call hold, because you hate someone that much. Kaiser did bring up people saying Katy was “trash” but not why people were saying it. They were saying the song is trash, Katy’s is like Kaiser who says one thing and does another. I’m way more offended by the few things Katy’s done then anything TS has ever done.
And I say this as a fan of neither, I’d take a immature, stunt queen, over a fake woke problematic Katy any day.
Because I don’t let hate overshadow my beliefs.
I’m sorry for the rant but it pissed me off and made me laugh.
I am quite sure this is how banning works on CB. Some other sites do it this way as well. They put your IP address or the name/ email on the blocked list. And your post just goes into limbo and never gets published.
I think on Disquis you do get a message that you are banned, but it is not the case with many other ‘comments’ applications.